Image: President Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen after finding out the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing at which he was to appear was canceled, on September 19, 2017 in Washington, DC. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
Here is an exposition and analysis of some of this week’s national security-related Twitter threads authored by Just Security Editorial Board member and former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti.
Trump Lawyer Says Didn’t Confront Mueller Before Sending Letter to Congress
In this thread, Mariotti builds on his analysis of the legal weaknesses in the Trump defense team’s argument that Mueller improperly obtained transition emails through the Government Services Administration (GSA).
Under the Fourth Amendment, the government may not unreasonably search or seize the property or effects of an individual. The modern test, based on the Supreme Court case Katz v. U.S. 389 U.S. 347 (1967), looks at whether a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy in an item as an essential element of the analysis. If the person does, the government usually needs a warrant based on probable cause to obtain or search the property.
Here, the Trump transition team signed an agreement with the GSA stipulating that they had no expectation of privacy in transition emails stored on GSA servers. That is critical to Mariotti’s analysis.
1/ As I told @NatashaBertrand, this is a publicity stunt and political attack, not a serious legal challenge. Trump’s lawyers are complaining to Congress because their legal argument is a loser. No court would take it seriously. https://t.co/KvXeEIWAj0
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 17, 2017
2/ Prosecutors often obtain emails from a third party, like Google or Yahoo. When they do so, they typically obtain a warrant. Here, they obtained them from a government agency without a warrant.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 18, 2017
3/ Why were they able to do that? Because the Trump team signed an agreement saying that they had no expectation of privacy as to the emails on the server. That settles the entire issue because warrants are only necessary when you have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 18, 2017
4/ When you agree that you don’t have privacy as to something, you can’t raise a Fourth Amendment challenge. That’s why they’re making arguments to Congress and haven’t bothered contacting Mueller. It’s a stunt. /end
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 18, 2017
Trump Lawyer Upset that Mueller Obtained Transition Emails through GSA
In this thread, Mariotti says that while it is common for a prosecution to obtain emails from third parties, it is unusual that the Mueller investigation did so when it could have gotten them directly from the Trump team. Typically, a prosecution will prefer to obtain emails from the defense directly, rather than from another source, because the defense will sort out the relevant emails.
Mariotti suggests two possible reasons for what happened in this case. First, Mueller’s investigation may not have believed that Trump’s team would produce all the relevant emails. Second, investigators may have wanted to surprise individuals whom they were interviewing with knowledge obtained from those emails. However, Mariotti notes the latter reason is unlikely, because the defense counsel should have reviewed relevant emails with their clients before letting them be interviewed.
Mariotti adds that prosecutors usually need to get a warrant to obtain emails from a third party. If the Mueller investigation obtained one, it convinced a federal judge that there was probable cause to believe a crime occurred and that the emails contained evidence of the crime.
Mariotti notes that obtaining documents from a third party raises privilege issues because third parties do not remove privileged materials. However, Trump’s defense team can move to exclude privileged documents from evidence at trial, and usually the prosecutor agrees to return them without the court’s intervention.
But the Trump team’s decision to send a letter to Congress is unusual. Mariotti writes that they may be trying to discredit Mueller in the political arena. He adds that they only claim the emails are “susceptible to privilege claims,” rather than claiming they are privileged, suggesting they do not view their claims as being strong enough to test in court. Subsequent to this tweet thread, it was reported that Mueller obtained these emails by request and without having to resort to a warrant.
THREAD: Why are Trump’s lawyers upset that Mueller obtained transition emails from a government agency? (Hint: They’re just playing politics, but this is a bad sign for them.)
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
1/ Today @axios reported that Mueller obtained tens of thousands of emails from the General Services Administration, which possessed them. https://t.co/jDB0fDlMJZ
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
2/ @axios reported that the emails included very frank discussions as well as emails from Jared Kushner. Trump’s team was unaware that Mueller possessed the emails and were surprised when Mueller’s team asked questions based on the emails.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
3/ Now Trump’s team has written a letter to Congress, complaining that some of the materials were “susceptible to privilege claims.” So what does this mean?
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
4/ First of all, it’s not unusual at all for prosecutors to obtain emails from other parties. That’s extremely common in white collar criminal investigations and is not improper.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
5/ What *is* unusual here is that Mueller obtained emails from GSA even though he could have obtained (many of) the same emails from lawyers for the Trump Transition.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
6/ Typically, in a white collar case, prosecutors obtain as many emails and documents as possible from defense attorneys instead of from another source.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
7/ That’s because the defense team would review the emails, take out the ones that are not relevant, sort the emails, and put them in a format could be useable by Mueller.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
8/ When a prosecutor obtains emails from a third party, usually irrelevant emails aren’t sorted out. So why would Mueller get the emails from GSA instead?
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
9/ One reason comes to mind. Mueller was concerned that he wouldn’t receive all of the emails if he obtained them from the Trump team. That’s surprising and suggests that he has reason to distrust Trump’s team.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
10/ It appears that obtaining the documents from GSA also allowed Mueller to surprise witnesses who were not prepared to talk about emails that they didn’t think he had.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
11/ I doubt that’s why Mueller obtained emails from GSA because any good lawyer would have reviewed the emails with their client anyway prior to an interview. Either the defense lawyers were incompetent or they weren’t surprised as they’re letting on.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
12/ One important issue I should note is that typically prosecutors cannot obtain emails from a third party without using a search warrant, not a subpoena.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
13/ If that happened here, it would mean a federal judge found that there was good reason to believe that a crime was committed and the emails contained evidence of a crime.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
14/ In any event, when a prosecutor obtains emails from a third party, privileged documents are not removed. Typically prosecutors use “taint teams” to remove privileged documents before the prosecution team reviews them.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
15/ If Mueller obtained a privileged email, the defense would be able to exclude it as evidence at trial. Typically all that happens is that the defense raises the issue with the prosecutor, and if the prosecutor agrees it is privileged, they return the privileged document.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
16/ Disputes over privilege are common when prosecutors obtain emails and documents from third parties. That’s very common. What’s uncommon is what the Trump lawyers did here.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
17/ Instead of sending a letter to Mueller, the attorneys sent a letter to Congress. Why? Probably to try to feed the growing effort to fire Mueller and/or try to discredit him to Congressional Republicans.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
18/ Note also that the lawyers *don’t* say that the emails are privileged. They merely claim that some of the emails are “susceptible to privilege claims.” That’s weak language that suggests they’re not confident they have a strong claim that some of the emails are privileged.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
19/ The biggest conclusion I’d draw from their letter is that they’re concerned about Mueller’s investigation and are doing whatever they can to discredit it. Their claims themselves are weak and are meant to persuade people who know nothing about criminal investigations. /end
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 16, 2017
Trump’s Lawyers Meet with Mueller Investigators
In this thread, Mariotti notes that Trump’s personal lawyers are preparing to meet with the Mueller team, and that it is common for a person’s attorneys to meet with prosecutors to determine whether charges may be brought. Mueller’s team is likely to respond that they will continue gathering evidence until they have completed their investigation, he adds. Finally, Mariotti emphasizes the need to monitor Trump’s reaction in case Mueller informs them that the investigation is going to carry on, against Trump’s team’s expectations that it will end soon.
THREAD: Why are Trump’s lawyers meeting with Mueller? What does it mean? https://t.co/s51Ryfm350
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
1/ It’s not uncommon for attorneys who represent an individual who is under investigation to meet with prosecutors to discuss whether charges will be brought against their client.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
2/ Given who their client is, and the importance of the case, it’s understandable that they want clarity as soon as possible. If Mueller has ruled out bringing charges, that would be great news for Trump.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
3/ Mueller doesn’t have to tip his hand to Trump’s attorneys, and I suspect he’ll tell them that he is continuing to investigate unless the evidence he has gathered thus far makes clear that he won’t be able build a case against Trump.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
4/ At this point, I suspect that Trump’s lawyers are focused on the obstruction case against him. That is the most obvious source of potential criminal liability for Trump. Now that this round of White House interviews are complete, Trump’s lawyers hope Mueller will wrap up.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
5/ As a practical matter, interviews of witnesses tend to reveal additional witnesses for prosecutors to interview and additional documents for them to subpoena. Unless they’ve ruled out charges, they likely have significantly more work to do.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
6/ In addition, the obstruction case against Trump is only one part of Mueller’s investigation. It’s best to think of Mueller’s investigation as a number of related investigations into different things.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
7/ The charges against Manafort aren’t directly related to obstruction or the Trump Tower meeting, for instance. So even if the White House interviews wrap up, or the obstruction piece ends, that doesn’t end the overall investigation.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
8/ The most important thing to watch for in the upcoming days is how Trump and his team react to what Mueller tells them. By all accounts, Trump’s team expects the investigation to wrap up soon.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
9/ If Mueller suggests the investigation will continue well into next year, will Trump try to fire Mueller over the holidays? That is likely to be the most important outcome to result from this meeting.
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017
10/ Otherwise, I’d expect Mueller to tell them that he is making progress but hasn’t completed the investigation. While prosecutors usually tell white collar subjects in advance that they intend to bring charges, they tend to initiate those conversations themselves. /end
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 15, 2017